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Managing multiple sessions of same class
by Bob Palmer - Tuesday, 3 April 2007, 04:27 PM
 
Hi all,

Let's say you're teaching the same listening class (Listening 101) at the same university to two different groups of students, one meeting Tuesday and the other Friday. I'm wondering whether it is more efficient to set up a single course or two separate courses in Moodle to support these students. Has anyone used Groups to handle such a situation in a single course format? This would seem to be the way to go but I would appreciate hearing the pros or cons of either choice.

Yoroshiku! smile
Bob
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Re: Managing multiple sessions of same class
by Peter Ruthven-Stuart - Tuesday, 3 April 2007, 05:35 PM
 
Hello Bob,

I have a similar situation and I use one course which contains 6 'groups'. Each 'group' represents a class. The Groups settings for this course are:
Group mode: Separate
Force: Yes

If you set up two separate courses, every time you want to make some changes or additions you'll have to do these twice. So, I think that groups are the way to go. However, be warned that not all activities support 'groups', e.g. it is not possible to view the results of Hot Potato quizzes according to Group - you get all the students in one big list.

Even more annoying angry, in the new 1.8 version of Moodle the groups feature seems to have been inadvertently disabled in some of the activities that previously supported Groups . This has been reported on the 'Tracker' and hopefully will soon be fixed smile .

Another solution you may want to consider is 'Meta Courses', which you can read more about here: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Meta_Courses

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Re: Managing multiple sessions of same class
by Bob Palmer - Tuesday, 3 April 2007, 08:41 PM
 
Hi Peter,

Thank you for your informative reply. I think I will go with your recommendation of splitting one 'course' into 2 'groups'. Since I don't anticipate using more than the basic Moodle activities in this class, this arrangement should be fine. Thanks for including the Groups settings smile.
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Re: Managing multiple sessions of same class
by Eric Hagley - Tuesday, 3 April 2007, 11:05 PM
 
One thing you can do is ask students to put their class number before their first name and their student number before their last name so that taro tanaka in class 2E with student number 12345678 will look like 2ETaro 1234678Tanaka in his moodle profile. Moodle offers different views in grades and in profiles - if you choose "first name" view, your classes will be in order. When you have to submit grades you use "last name" view and grades come out in student number order - easy to transfer information over to grade sheets.
Also, I have my different classes interacting with each other online. My groups are 2,3,or 4 students from each class in one group - they are interacting with real people in face to face class time but with students they very well may not meet when they are interacting online.
Just some ideas.
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Re: Managing multiple sessions of same class
by Peter Ruthven-Stuart - Thursday, 5 April 2007, 12:12 PM
 
Hello,

The bug (see above) in 1.8 that disabled group visibility in some activities and the Gradbook has now been fixed:

http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-9185

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Re: Managing multiple sessions of same class
by CA Edington - Tuesday, 3 April 2007, 10:11 PM
 
Bob - I agree with Peter that using the Group Mode can save time when it comes to changing anything about the course.

The biggest problem I ran into was that the due dates of assignments were different for each group.  Also, the Monday class had one week less during the semester than the Wednesday class.  I didn't know how to deal with the "dates thing," so ended up making two separate courses.

Have fun!
CA
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Re: Managing multiple sessions of same class
by Bob Palmer - Thursday, 5 April 2007, 05:18 PM
 
A big thanks to CA, Eric, Peter, and anyone I may have missed for your very useful information on managing different sessions of the same class. I'm sure it will be helpful to other readers of this forum as well.

Bob